Men's SAUCONY® KINVARA 4 :: Upgrade your performance and your comfort level when you run in the newly updated men's Saucony® Kinvara 4. Experience a light, seamless feel from the redesigned upper that utilizes the FlexFilm technology of previous Kinvara versions. And, if you're a Kinvara loyalist, you'll really love this running shoe's upgrade from ProGrid to PowerGrid that will provide you with smoother transitions and an improved overall ride. 7.7 ounces
It was totally by chance that I ended up with the Kinvara 4. I am a triathlete (completed numerous 70.3s under 5:30 and am a 3:30 marathoner). Due to recent bouts with shin splints, IT Band, and like many of us, I read Born to Run, so my pendulum has moved toward a more minimalist shoe. I have been running in a pair of Brooks Pure Connects. They have really been great in helping me improve my stride/gait/form. The zero drop heel and meaty mid-foot I found to be a ample on the trail and shorter distances on the road. Now that I have increased my mileage as the race season approaches, as well as increasing the intensity of my runs (I do a Tempo at race pace, hill, and speed work out at least once a week) I have noticed that the Pure Connects just were not enough shoe for me. I went to my local running store and laid out my situation. I tried on multiple shoes, including Newtons (which just felt to to machine like to me and didn't see the value @$175), and some similar brooks and Nike Frees. I decided to go with the Kinvara 3s. After walking around in them for a day I felt that they were a bit too big. I went back and asked to swap them out for a size smaller but they did not have any in stock...but, they just, in the previous hour, got the new 4's in. So, I was the first runner in Richmond to have them; or at least that is what I tell myself. #smallvictories. I took them out for a quick two miles and they felt absolutely perfect. Just the right amount of meat, the 4mm drop feels like zero drop, and they felt almost lighter than my Pure Connects. Yesterday, I took them on the trail for a 5 miler and was blown away by them. I ran on a super technical trail that is up and down on the river banks. It is littered with rocks, roots, cliff faces, and just gnarly. The Kinvaras held the trail as good as any trail shoe I have ran in with out all the weight and clunkiness. The new PowerGrid really felt like it gave a great return even with the harsh angles I was hitting the trail. When I first put on the Kinvaras I felt like the looseness of the material would translate to my foot not being supported and moving around in the shoe. This was not the case, at all. Even on the steepest descents the was ample foot support. Basically, these shoes are terrific. If you are looking for a light all around training and distance shoe a (small) step up from a minimal but leaps below a meaty support shoe, you have found it!
First performance neutral shoe
These shoes were my first performance neutral purchase and they seem to be working out well so far. I have only used them for a handful of shorter runs (5k) mostly on my local high school track. I have very picky feet and a sensitive back. I can usually tell by the quick onset of lower back pain if shoes are not going to work for me. No pain so far with these. They are very light compared to my Mizuno Wave Rider 16 and feel like socks compared to my ASICS Gel Nimbus 15. I was afraid these would not provide enough cushion, as I do carry about 20 lbs extra weight, but so far they seem to work quite well. I typically run 5-10k each time out. I'm not sure how well my feet will tolerate longer runs with these but on the shorter runs, they're great.
They do fit quite tightly at true size. I am normally a 10 and these are quite narrow at that size. I would rather they were a bit small with no blisters than order a half size up though. And these are so light that it almost feels like they should fit more like a sock than a shoe. They feel like they might not be the most durable shoes in the world, but I have only them for a couple weeks.
Overall, I'm not at the chiropractor yet, so I think these are gonna work out OK as part of my neutral shoes rotation.
I was a faithful Asics runner for over 8 years, that was until the Kinvara 1 came out several years ago. After purchasing, I fell in love with the feel, fit, and look of the shoe. Unfortunately, the shoe had some durability issues as the upper started tearing in less than 50 miles.
Even though I was upset, I was understanding. I figured it was "1st Generation" bugs, so I decided to switch back to Asics, until the future models came out. When the Kinvara 3 came out (the Kinvara 2 had some durability issues as well) I waited about a year before reading reviews about the shoe, which do my delight, I found out the previous durability problems with the upper was no longer an issue.
When I started searching for deals on the Kinvara 3, I found out that the Kinvara 4 was only a few months from release! So I decided to wait.
Now, I am 2-months into owning my Kinvara 4, with less than 50miles on the shoe, and the UPPER IS TEARING AGAIN! Please see attached picture
Fool me once shame on you. Fool me twice shame on me. I will never purchase a Saucony product ever again.
Big improvement over Kinvara 3
I ran into problems with my Achilles' tendon using the Kinvara 3, so I ended up going back to ASCICS DS Trainer 18 (a great shoe with lots of cushioning and a little more heel lift), but I was still bothered a bit by the tendon problem. After reading more about the Kinvara 4, I decided to try it again, and I am really impressed after several runs. It has great road feel, some very natural cushioning (so you still get the minimalist effect but no harshness in the ride). The key is the transition design. I tried on my old Kinvara 3's again and could really tell the difference and the reason I hurt my tendon in the first place. The Kinvara 4 has a roomy toe box, very nice and snug heel counter, and lacing that makes the shoe snug up consistently on my feet. It also provides a little more pronation control and a tad more heel lift than the older Kinvaras did. But you still get a nice, minimalist ride. So far, my Achilles' tendon is holding up well. I also recommend exercises for reducing pain in the Achilles tendon specified by Egoscue's Pain Free (look it up!).
I've fallen in Love
I switched ot Nutral shoes a few months ago. Firt a pair of Cortanas, but then I decided to try Kinvaras for someting a little lighter and minimal. I intended to use them for long coruse racing (Ironmans), but they've become my go to shoes for my medium (sometimes tempo) and long runs and now I only use the Cortanas for the treadmill and shorter recovery runs. They do seem ot wear fairly quick. I have 105 miles on them in the last 3-1/2 weeks and tey are probably 1/4 to 1/3 worn on the outsole. I can live with 400-500 miles life. IT doesn't seem any worse than my Cortans. But my previous heavily padded, thick sole trainers could get 600 miles. Traction is really, really good, however, expecially on wet pavement. Cold weather hasn;t been an issue in them. No blisters at all. Perahps a first in any shoe I've owned. I might try them sockless for shorter tempo runs this spring.
So Far So Good
Off to a great start. I typically run in the Brooks Ghost but had been wanting to try something toward a more minimal shoe. I tried the Green Silence, but there was just no support and seemed like too big of a jump. I've run 3 times so far in the Kinvara, and it's been great. I only ran 3 miles the first two runs and had no soreness at all. I then went for 6 and got some sore calf muscles after. Not painful but definitely found some new muscles in my legs. I'm really suprised with how much support these provide for such a lightweight shoe. They feel firm when just walking around the house but have nice cushioning in the forefoot and heel when running. I'll write an update if anything changes, but I'm loving these shoes so far.
about me: 5ft10in 155lbs run 15-20miles/wk recreational 10k but training for a half marathon
Very Nice shoe
Regular runner who is on the bigger side--5'10" 185 lbs. I'm a former football player turned distance runner and log about 30 miles/week. I wear a traditionally neutral shoe with no support and really like these shoes. I'm transitioning from the Mizuno Precisions which are nice, but their hard plastic wave has bothered my calves (heel -toe drop is too big).
I'm very early into my Kinvara's but I haven't had any issues with the change. I feel like there's more room in the toe box than the Mizuno, and the lower drop has helped correct my calf pain. They are very light weight and feel very connected to the ground. I've heard that he Kivara 3's wore out quickly so I'm hoping the enhancements to the foam and shoe in the 4 help there. So far I'm having a lot of fun in them!
Fast, but tore up my feet
I have never gotten blisters this bad with another shoe. I've worn Adidas for years, but decided to switch things up and try the Kinvara 4. They worked well for runs under ~7 miles on pavement, but when I ran farther or off road, they chewed up my feet every time. The sole is also so thin that if you step on a stone or piece of gravel anywhere but the raised pads on the sole, it's almost enough to drop you mid-stride.
The last straw for me was after race day for a half marathon. I'd been training in these shoes for two months and ended up with 4 new massive blisters. I've never had a shoe do that to me before.
I set PRs in pretty much every distance in these, but I couldn't deal with the pain.
Great Minimalist Transition Shoe
The reason I didn't rate the 5-star is because I have only used the shoes twice in the gym. So far the shoe has been great. When I first ordered this shoe, I ordered a half size bigger based on reviews and the sizes of my other shoes. I am trying to transition to a lower heel drop (from a 10mm) and realized when I got these shoes that my 11.5 shoes (10mm drop) have more cushion in them and fit a little more snug. But when I wore the Kinvara 4 that has much less cushion around the foot, I had to ship them back for the 11.5 size (making it true to size). The 11.5's are great! I like the shoes so far and look forward to wearing them more.
Bossier City, LA
Love Kinvara - shame on their durability
I use the Kinvaras since Kinvara 2 with an average of 20 Miles a week. This is a vote of confidence that can't be dismissed... There are many similar models in the Saucony line which are hard to distinguish, so I just stay with these proven shoes that already took me, on and off-road, to multiple half Marathons.
Although not true to size, the K2 were the best and fastest. K3 were nice, but tore at the pinkies after 300 Miles. K4 also show tear and wear in the same place after 250 Miles, which are practically 3-4 months of use for me. This is a disappointment.
Someone that runs
New and improved!
Nicely executed incremental improvement on an already great Kinvara series.
I've run in Kinvara 2 and 3. with every upgrade, there was a lot new to like and a little regression in "nice to have". With the Kinvara 4, I must say I have yet to find the regression.
The major improvement for me is in the padding/shoe position in relation to my Achilles' heel. In the K3 I did notice some irritation, especially at about the 4 mile mark in every run. Nothing to cause injury, but an irritant nevertheless. Just finished running 5 miles in the K4 and I love it. All of the benefits of the previous model with none of the irritation.
Newly hooked on running
Great trainer and race shoe
I'm on my 4th pair of Kinavara's since 2010. I've tried other shoes but keeping coming back to the Kinavara. I've had each of the 4 generations of the shoe and Sauncony has it just about right with the latest version 4. The uppers in the early versions wore out too early. The treads still wear a little too quickly but then again they are probably not built for full marathons. I've ran NYC and Chicago in Kinavara and plan to do Boston 2014. If you like a light, fast and comfortable shoe with mimimal support and heel height, you should try the Kinavara.
Toronto Beaches, Ontario
WOW! I'm running faster
Wow are these shoes light! The heel wrap feels like retro tennis shoes. I didn't know if I could handle these. I've been running in Asics Gel lites or DS Trainers for 20+ years, but I've been working on a midfoot strike for the last 6+ months. The Kinvara 4 forces you to run with proper forefoot tech or it hurts a bit. I wasn't sure if it was in my head, but after 2 weeks of running in them, I def am running faster (proper tech is a beautiful thing). I don't know how they will hold up to higher mileage but so far I have 84 miles on them and they look great. I hope I can get at least 400 miles or so out of them.
Highland Mills, NY
Nice Shoe So Far
I'm a first-time runner (a transplant from cycling), and these are my first ever running shoes. As a result I have no experience in other shoes to make a comparison. I was fully expecting to have issues with these shoes in one area or another and have to try out a number of shoes to find a pair that I liked, but fortunately that hasn't been the case. They've proven to be light and very comfortable, and I'm finding myself looking forward to my evening run.
I can't speak to their durability as of yet, but so far they've been a great deal of fun for the past few weeks.
Daniel First Time Runner
Perfect shoe for me
I have been wearing Kinvara's since the begining. I have the originals, a couple pairs of 2's, three pairs of 3's, and a pair of 4's. I love them and will continue to wear them as long as they stay the same or improve (if they can). I rotate through my shoes, and I still wear my 2's from time to time. I have logged over 500 miles on each pair (except the 4's, not yet)...and I am very happy with them. They are the perfect balance between minimal and still having some cusion and durability. I sometimes run in other branded zero drop shoes and I always return back to the Kinvara's as my go to shoes!
Previously I have been running in the Kinvara 3's which I have loved. I describe the K3's as feeling "gummy" as far as cushioning goes. I don't mind it but I would prefer a little more road feel. I attributed that to the ProGrid sole material in the heel. The Kinvara 4's deliver they fit exactly the same as the K3's but with the switch to PowerGrid instead of ProGrid. This makes enough of a difference for the shoes to feel a little "stiffer" in the sole but still as comfortable as before. Hopefully this will also add up to a bit more longevity.
New York, NY
40+ miles per week, mostly pavement, age 53. Put about about 35 miles on these shoes.
I've been dealing with a tendinitis issue in my foot and my trainer suggested this shoe because it has a tighter fit than the PureFlow 2 that I've been using. The Kinvara was easy to break-in- just a couple of short runs and they were good to go for an 18-miler. They are light weight, good cushioning but not too soft/squishy. The "last" of the shoe does not seem to fit well. Other than that, they have been a great shoe.
Light high performance trainer
I loved the Kinvara 3s so I knew I would love the 4s too. The bottom basically feels the same as the 3 although there is a new material in the midsole. Perhaps it lasts longer? The upper is he main difference. It breathes a lot better than the 3 and is more comfortable especially in the heel. My only small peeve is that the forefoot is slippery on wet or slick surfaces. Otherwise you can't go wrong with the Kinvara 4s for your training needs.
New York, NY
Loved the shoes at first. Comfortable, light and good for all around use. After about 3 months, the uppers tore. My son who had the kids version of the 3 tore in the same spots, should have taken that as a hint, mine would do the same.
On a better note, Roadrunner sports handled the issue wonderfully. Told me to send them back, asked which shoe I would like shipped out and sent me all the paperwork needed to ship and return for credit.
Wish there was a button to rate the shoe and Roadrunner sports, the first gets a 1 and the other gets a 5
This is an amazing shoe! Saucony really improved the fit for the kinvara 4! The previous versions had a little narrower toe box, so the slightly wider toe box makes it feel like it fits better. I don't run crazy long distances and I'm not really fast but I run about 25 miles per week or more if my schedule allows. This shoe makes each mile better; it's super-light, minimalistic but durable, and has a great FEEL to it (it's not flimsy and not marshmallow-y!
Great product with one minor flaw
Have had number pairs of Kinvaras, 2's, 3's and now the 4. Of the bunch the 4 seems to be almost identical to the 3 which is my favorite. Only real difference I noticed was that the heel comes up slightly higher than in previous models and causes some irritation to my heels. After a few runs, including a half marathon PR, my body seems to have gotten used to the difference and the irritation is very minimal.
Good lightweight trainer
Mostly use for short quick training runs, anywhere from speed work on the track to medium tempo runs up to 9 miles. Very comfortable and lightweight. Usually run in asics gel lyte 33, and these are pretty comparable. However the kinvaras in my opinion have a little less cushioning. Overall, these are a great pair of shoes and definitely worth a try if you're looking for a neutral minimal shoe.
perfect lightweight marathon shoe!
I have been running marathons for the past ten years. I recently ran from San Francisco to San Diego to raise funds for our foundation. This is the perfect shoe for me to use on my next planned long endurance run ( Seattle to San Diego) it allows me for a more natural foot strike and very comfortable, the only drawback is that it seems not to be a very high mileage shoe.
Like K2's but better
I normally run 5-6 days a week. I always rotate through 2 pairs of shoes. One for speedwork and one for easy long runs. The K4's are almost cushioned enough to handle both in my opinion. They are similar in fit and close ground feel to the K2's, but slightly more cushioned. I haven't put many miles on them yet, so I don't know if they hold up better(was my only complaint with K2's).
One of the best shoes I've ever owned. I primarily use them as my gym shoe and don't run outside. But when I hit the indoor track or treadmill to do my sprints and agility training they get the job done. They are a little wide in the toe box so lateral agility drills sometimes suffer but no biggie.
Great, amazing product
I really love saucony products. I wore the mirage 2 for a little while but wanted something a little lighter, so i stepped down to the kinvara 4. they are an amazing shoe. Lightweight, and a nice fit on my foot. I wear them without socks all the time due to the "flexfilm" upper. Overall the best running shoe i have owned.
For neutral runners
I use my kinvara almost every day. I run with it ( 4 x a week, about 15-20 miles a week). I wear them at work which requires a lot of walking and standing for long periods of time. My feet doesn't feel tired after running and after work. I recommend these for runners who wants a light neutral shoes.
I've put 50 miles on this shoe and so far, so good. I bought the first Kinvara but soon gave them away due to a tight fit. However this feels like a different shoe. The shoe is comfortable from the toe box to the pads that hold the heel snug. Traction may be suspect; we'll see how they fare in the snow and slush.
These replaced Kinvera 2's. Appears to be a good upgrade, but with only 20 road miles on them, it's too soon to tell about durability. These fit well with custom orthotics. Need to try them on different running surfaces, but haven't yet had the opportunity ... so the verdict is still out.
Reliable Every Day Trainer
I use the Kinvara 4 as an everyday training shoe as well as racing shoe logging 35-45 miles per week. I have also run marathons in this shoe with no problems. I really like the compromise between light weight and cushioning. I would definitely recommend it to a fellow runner.
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